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for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insi
of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, romney is at 47%. i think the president, the fundamental structure of the race hasn't been changed, but if he doesn't go on the attack, if biden doesn't do a good job against ryan, and if the president doesn't show up and isn't strong in the second debate, then you're going to have a tossup race. >> well, i would disagree with your approach, first of all. i don't approach it that way. that's going back and relegating all the old arguments. in spirit what i would do, unlike shrumy, i would take the big issue that is separating the candidates, don't get into the little trench warfare about what's your tax plan and where were you on medicare two weeks ago.
sense. who do you trust on this? they're saying no, they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut to the super wealthy. just get out of the way. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsible responsible for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. have you ever seen me rope-a-dope. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how like me now ♪ how you like me now >> he came, he saw, and he told the truth, and the great pretender, paul ryan, was exposed after a no holds barred full out slugfest of a debate with vice president joe biden last night. and for democrats across the country, it is tgi biden, a man who brought the fight to congressman ryan with a huge heart and lethal honesty on everything from medicare to taxes, abortion, middle class opportunity, and foreign policy. and this afternoon the vice president landed in ryan's home turf of wisconsin hungry for more action going after romney/ryan on the 47%.
a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. >> we are going to win this. we're taking back the white house. >> the romney family is taking back this campaign. >> or not. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stick words in people's mouths. >> stay in your seats. there's just four weeks until election day. >> the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. >> don't pay any attention to that tax cut behind the curtain. >> i'm not sure exactly precisely with what i said but i stand behind it, whatever it was. >> we begin exactly 28 days until the election with both the president and his challenger declaring they will win a race that is anything but settled. today their paths will cross again in ohio, the state that may yet decide this election. amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. f
it to a poll tax, they said this was a poll tax and would be voter suppression in texas and would not be happening there. like they are utilizing in other states. >> okay. so -- in the state of rhode island which i think -- my home state which is pretty controlled by the democratic party, they didn't see too much outrage there when they did it. i think when you look at every poll that's ever come out, 70% to 80% of americans support this, so i think that somehow equate showing a photo i.d. which in most states is given -- free if there is an issue with the person's economic condition, then somehow requiring people to show the same type of thing had would be required to get government assistance and get on an airplane and try government building and is actually a common sense move to ensure we maintain the integrity -- >> the basic right of an american isn't to fly, is it? >> i don't understand your question. >> your basic american right in certain things is to be able to vote. >> i don't understand how -- entering a government building, getting government benefits, things like tha
romney and i do share a deep interest in encouraging small business growth. at the same time that my tax plan has already lowered taxes for 98% of families, i also lowered taxes for small businesses 18 times. and what i want to do is continue the tax rates, the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families. >> i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal income, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, property tax cab gas tax, over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. >> what is main street's reaction? we have two of our most outspoken regulars here to discuss. phil cowan, an invest adviser, entrepreneur and best selling author. you can find him at rule 1 investing.com. carol roth, you can find her at carolroth.com. >> good to see you. >> you too, j.j. >> i think it is
and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class and in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. they are elderly people who, in fact, are living off social security. they are veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now who are, quote, not paying any taxes. i've had it up to here with this notion that 47% of -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover norquist not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle class, they sho
. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers said that paying for governor romney's tax plan -- one or the other. pick your poison. last week when we were on stage together. governor romney just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention for that tax cut under the carpet behind the curtain. >>> romney's pretending his tax cut plan doesn't exist, but the president won't let him get away with it. he also won't let him get away with hitting the middle class to protect his own tax rate. >> governor romney said it's fair he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher or autoworker who makes $50,000. he is wrong. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i refuse to pay for that tax cuss by asking you students to pay more for college or kicking kits out of headstart or
be trusted to hold don middle-class taxes. take a listen. >> the middle class will pay less and people making a million or more will begin to contribute slightly more. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax them for all their spending. the next time you hear that, watch out, middle class. the tax bill's coming to you. >> edward isaac, how does a voter make sense of this? what's the truth on taxes? >> well, that's one of the essential questions of the cam paint that's what the obama campaign is saying about this. but what the romney/ryan campaign says about the obama plan is they have not done anything to say where the spending would be cut, to say where they're going to be doing things to reduce the deficit, and that's going to fall on middle-class families so it's a question of philosophy here, whether you think there is enough and other things he says he'll do to cut spending in the budget to make up the money that would be lost in revenue from that 20% across the board tax cut or whether you believe that the plan that president obama is saying to say that there shoul
being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47%, this nation depends on to build this country. folks, it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. [ cheers and applause ] take some responsibility to help the american people, the middle class. instead of lining up to sign a pledge to a guy named grover in order kwis. >> ezra, i have to say for me one of my favorite moments in the debate was with him pointing out the effective rate romney pays compared to what other people in the real world pay. i'm not sure how many people jumped on that a as their favorite moment but. >> you and me, lawrence. >> but biden is finding more effective ways of isolating that romney tax return 14% number. >> it wasn't just that. biden i thought actually figured out what obama didn't figure out a week before which is how to dea
. >> if those two different questions -- >> i'm going to call him a liar now. no. talking about the tax plans at the rallies. he was saying the same things on wednesday night and the other piece about how -- >> let me stop you there. i want to read to you if i can about a fact check about the tax. not cutting taxes for the wealthy. in the primary, cut taxes for everyone including the top 1%. suspect that a change? >> no, it's not. he's been saying the entire time that while he would be in favor of an across the board tax cut of 25% for every taxpayer, those making over a certain amount of money he would close tax loopholes so their overall taxes that they pay and the overall tax plan would be tax neutral. i mean, it would be revenue neutral. the other piece is you mentioned this other story -- >> the story is specifics, hasn't it? >> i'll keep going back to this to seep the record straight. you all talking about this story that mitt romney had been saying and reported in other places that this is a new softer side of mitt romney. he's been telling that story for months. and so, i mean, this i
week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the rich. he says he's going to offset that, but when asked by wolf blitzer, are you going after where the money is, the mortgage deduction? rule going after charitable, which everybody seems to like? i'm not going to keep those preferences. how can he do it? is he houdini? >> he can't do it. th
of the campaign is the lie that mitt romney will raise taxes on the middle class. mitt romney has no chance of raising taxes on the middle class. his republican base would kill him. the concept of raising taxes on the middle class will never happen. >> if not, something has to give. then he can't deliver tax cuts. >> you can come up with a tax reform plan. increased revenue that takes down the rates, makes it fairer everybody. it's difficult, but you can do it. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be able to cut taxes for rich people. he doesn't want to. the idea of pro growth taxes -- >> didn't he say 20% across the board? >> he did, but he also said if you take up
. last week romney lied about his policies on taxes, education and health care. today the candidate's positions went under the knife during a speech at the military institute. romney laid out a complete reversal on his strategy for middle east peace. >> i'll recommit america to the goal of a democratic, prosperous state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. >> the new mitt romney is committed to a two-state solution, but this is not what mitt romney told a group of donors in private. >> priceless tape. direct from romney's mouth, you hope for some stability and hope something will happen. listen to the new mitt romney today in his opinion on hope. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more prosperous middle east aligned with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. >> the new mitt romney didn't flinch when he made a false accusation. >> i'll champion free trade and restore it as a critical element of our strategy. both in the middle east and across the world. the president has not signed one new free trade agreement in th
of abortion? do we deliver tax cuts? it's important that the president do this for the basic reason that people in this country know what they are voting for and if they decide against. and that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, no hiding from biden. for months mitt romney and paul ryan have been running from their records, hiding their extreme far right agenda behind platitudes and big promises, trying to pin them down on specifics was like trying to nail jello to the wall. but that all stopped last night. we'll talk about all of it in the show tonight, how vice president biden took the fight to paul ryan on issue after issue. on taxes, on medicare, on abortion, on their plan to privatize social security and to gut medicare. joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could b
a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why they arrived. >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve important references for middle-class taxpayers. >> it isn't mathematically possible. >> it isn't. it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> okay. good morning. >> i missed that one. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it's friday, october 12th. with us on set, we have the former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. and contributor to "newsweek" and the daily beast and former adviser to george w. bush, mark mckinnon. >> wait. no, hold on. what is that, willie? >> it's fair to call it the mexican scarf. >> willie and i both were thinking about wearing that yesterday, but we were afraid we'd come to the set wearing the same thing. >> yes. maybe mark feels the need to distract this morning. >> distracting. let's see what al hunt is wearing this morning. >> washi
to a failed economic theory, of tax cuts for the rich. the notion that let's go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss, that's exactly what got us into this mess. that's what we've spent four years digging out. >> that's really not what they saw. i get the interpretation you've got a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be somebody they had never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising he was the guy brimming with new ideas and energy. they saw the president of the united states who was sleepwalking the whole time. >> i don't disagree -- >> the tired contrast rang a bell with people. romney's got ideas and the president, there's no vision for a second term. >> mike, i don't doubt this was somebody they never seen before. quite frankly, i think there were people in the romney campaign that had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 billion tax cut. he said i don't have time. mitt romney said, we don't do math. you cannot wish away the existence of your entire campaign platform
ban of abortion, do we deliver huge new shipments of money in the form of tax cuts to the country's wealthy? it's important that the president do this for the basic reason that people in this country know what they're voting for and if they decide against. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from minneapolis. when you stand with middle class workers, you can't lose, and he ain't no ordinary joe. joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack
. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. they are elderly people who, in fact, are living off of social security. they are veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now who are, quote, not paying any taxes. i've had it up to here with this notion that 47% -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover norquist not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle class, they should be signing a pledge saying to the middle class, we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. we are going to not repeat the mistakes we made in the past by having a different set of rules for wall street and main street. >> that sound bite right there by joe biden made paul ryan look out of his league a number of times in the debate, but especially right there. when paul ryan criticized the stimulus plan, biden's response was devastating. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the w
was clear. mitt romney's plan is to go back to a failed economic theory of tax cuts for the very rich, despite the fact that he denied the existence of tax cuts or the existence of math. the notion that let's go to war on wall street -- go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss. that's exactly what got us into this mess. >> that's not what they saw. i get the interpretation. you have a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be someone they'd never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising. he was a guy brimming with new ideas and energy. and they saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 trillion tax cut. and he said i don't
taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geo political foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. if you vote for me in november i'll finish what we started. >> with four w
about his policies on taxes, education and healthcare. today the candidates foreign policy positions went under the knife during a speech at the virginia military institute. romney laid out a complete reversal on his strategy for mideast peace. >> i recommit america to the goal of democratic prosperous palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. >> the new mitt romney is totally committed to a two-state solution in israel but this is not what mitt romney told a group of wealthy donors in private. >> and i look at the palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes -- of iz real and these thorny issues, and i say there's just no way going to remain an unsolved problem we live with that in china and taiwan. all right, we have a potentially volatile situation but we sort of live with it, and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it. >> priceless tape, isn't it? direct from romney's mouth. you hope from is some stability. you hope something will happen. lis
with, my neighbors, they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> governor romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> and of course the two sparred over entitlements. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party's not been big on medicare from the beginning and they've always been about social security as little as you can do. look, folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? a man who introduced a bill that would raise it $6,400 a year, knowing it and passing it and romney saying he'd sign it or me and the president? >> that statistic was completely misleading but more importantly -- >> those are the facts, right. >> these are two politicians do when they don't have a record to run on, try to scare people for voting for you. >> one of the most contentious moments of the night was about tax cuts and th
borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care. it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. and we will not blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding princip principles. the choice is clear. and the choice rests with you. and we ask you for your vote. thank you. >> and thank you, both, again. t
a couple weeks ago and he was asked to explain governor romney's tax plan and he said, well, i don't have enough time to explain it. it's too complicated to explain it. well, he has 90 minutes tonight, so hopefully he'll have enough time to explain it. >> you read some of these reports, joe biden has been studying paul ryan's tax plan so hard, he may know it better than paul ryan. but are they right about what joe biden needs to do tonight? >> yoe biden as you said redemption in the lead, i like that word. he really has to shift the momentum of the race and make obama's people feel better. there was almost a suicidal tendency among democrats for a couple of days. it doesn't help you in the campaign. but i think there are two things biden has going for him, one, he really is a good debater. i went back and looked at stuff on the 2007/2008 debates and i wrote a column back then where biden beat all of them. and i led my column with the sentence does joe biden have to set himself on fire to get any attention. he's got the attention tonight. but the second thing he's got going for him is that
tax. 47% of people pay no income tax. so our message of low taxes doesn't connect. he'll be out there talking for tax cuts of the rich. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. krystal ball, i don't know. that sounds to me like it's a description of how he would be as president. so my job is not to worry about those people? >> well, he may have contempt for you, but that doesn't mean he's going to act like he has contempt for you when he's president. obviously, when he was in that particular room, he was telling the people in that room that that's exactly who he would be as president. and i think what we see from mitt romney is who he is and what he says is all dependent on the expediencies of the moment. if we had a president romney, he would mostly be held hostage by a republican congress who was pushing him to the right. that is the
pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> now, that was the president waxing incredulous while former president bill clinton last night, well, he went full clintonian, painting the picture of how mitt's transformation went down. >> the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that's how he described himself. for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate they got together and said, hey, this ship is sinking faster than the titanic so show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. what are you doing? >> i think he actually caught air there. and it's no wonder with romney suddenly shifting on all marng of positions, lately it's a woman's right to choose. here he is to "the des moines register" on tuesday. >> there's no legislation with regarding -- with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> funny. around this time la
business going. helping small business. >> encouraging small business growth lowered taxes for small bidses. through small businesses. 97% of small businesses. >> it's small businesses. a guy who has a small business. successful small businesses. >> those small businesses. >> all the praise for small businesses and their owners obscures the questions we should ask. what counts as a small business and what is their role in the u.s. economy? many of these small businesses talked about are anything but small. in order to avoid paying income taxes, they use sole propriet proprietorships and s-corporations. the owners file the profits on individual tax returns making the term small business about the number of owners rather than anything else. as a result, these small business owners include partners of hedge funds. also, donald trump. >> under governor romney's definition there are a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who are small businesses. donald trump is a small business. i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything, but it's how you define small businesses to get business incom
it be prevented if the wealthy get a tax cut? >> it's not possible. it has never been done before. >> reporter: on the style side, biden smiled a lot. ryan, a debate rookie, kept his cool. did ryan add to the romney momentum or did biden help put obama back on track? the pollsters go to work to figure it out while voters digest the second of four debates. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news. back to you. >> steve, thanks. >>> president obama and romney will have their second debate tuesday in long island, new york. andrea mitchell led the truth squad with a fact check. she started with the deadly september 11th attack in benghazi. paul ryan accusing them of protecting u.s. personnel. >> what we should not be doing is rejecting claims for calls for more security in barracks and marines. we need marines in benghazi when the ambassador says we need them. the requests were not honored. >> biden called the deaths a tragedy. the obama administration did not know they had been asking for more security help. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way
. romney is ignoring the fact that his tax plan is a give away to the rich. the only problem, that's not the mr. romney who's running for president and this weekend newt gingrich, one of his top surrogates let the cat out of the bag. >> standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney, had a problem with being dishonest and the primary of my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clear he changed. >> clearly he's changed. another romney surrogate even admitted it. >> that's all you're seeing here. it's very typical. we we strong conservatives understand that. it's campaign strategy. >> it's typical. just campaign strategy. that's all you're seeing here. very typical. but here's the thing. the more he moves to the middle, the more hypocritical he looks. this weekend, moderate campaign with none other than congressman allen west. yes, the same allen west who thinks t
is important for education purposes. >> i don't think cutting taxes or preking the wealthy is the way to go. >> i was lucky enough to find a job at the beginning of the summer, but it's really difficult to find a job when you're a college student. >> interesting. those students were in line to get tickets for president obama's speech later this week at the university of miami. in 2008, senator obama beat senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. according to statistics from the zx 2.8 million people are registered as independents or with a third party. the numbers are interesting, but it means nothing if there's no emotional component that will motivate them to do it. this is why the debates are so important in today's information culture. there must be a real emotional appeal by president obama if he's to succeed in getting these voters ou
it. krystal, when you look at his record, it seems right for pickings. his budget raises taxes on the poor. it makes seniors pay $6400 more for medicare coverage, all while giving millionaires a $265,000 tax break. meanwhile, he voted for defense cuts he blames on president obama and mr. fiscal conservative voted to increase the debt ceiling by $4 trillion under president bush. seems like right pickens to me, krystal. >> frankly, he can't be directly honest about the plans because they are toxic. it is not popular to fund tax cuts for the rich on the backs of the poor. that is not something that sells in this election. on the other hand, biden and obama have been very consistent and their policies are broadly popular. they are talking about restoring the middle class. they are talking about the american dream. they have a balanced plan that makes sense to americans. so i think it is very tough for paul ryan. not only does he have to defend his own budget but mitt romney's plans and he has to be able to reconcile the differences between what mitt romney has been selling and what
that president obama has not raised taxes while he has been in office. seriously? mitt romney is dropping that argument? he doesn't think president obama has raised taxes? no, not really. his campaign later saying, never mind what mitt romney just said. that's not actually what he believes. sure, he said president obama didn't raise taxes, and president obama didn't raise taxes, but really, mitt romney officially thinks that he did. they have done this over and over and over and over again, on big issues like health reform, on small issues like whether he met a guy or not. and it is a ridiculous technique. i mean, think about what this means for the long run. i mean, the romney campaign is training the country to not believe this guy when he is talking. they're training the country to feel that, you know, wherever you hear mitt romney saying something today, don't worry, it doesn't really matter. it is all subject to revision later. long-term, this is a weird technique. it has been a strange political technique from the get-go this year. but mostly, it has worked for them. them correcting
the weekend in florida, he focused on taxes and president obama. >> they will ultimately have to raise taxes on middle income families by $4 million a year. >> reporter: since last week's debate, which romney is widely regarded as having won, both sides argued the other was dishonest. >> he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which governor romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run. >> reporter: their truth war now on tv. >> not telling the truth about mitt romney's tax plan. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular, so a few weeks before the election, he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president obama at a star-studded fundraising concert in los angeles sunday heads to san francisco today with romney's poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is within two points of the president. and tomorrow, both candidates head to ohio, battleground ohio, where early voting is already under
. >> you can do that by cutting taxes? >> those are your words, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stuff words in people's mouths? >> it sounds like you're -- >> ryan folks putting the paper in front of the camera and everything. vice presidential nominee paul ryan getting annoyed in this interview with terry camp in flint, michigan. the campaign even after the interview was over still went out of their way to trash the reporter that paul ryan walked out of that interview on. the campaign giving on the record quotes calling the reporter an embarrassment. the city where that reporter works and where that interview took place does have the worst violent crime rate in the nation. god bless flint, michigan. so that line of questioning here for mr. ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's h
session is what to do about the fiscal cliff, this whammy, this triple whammy of tax hikes and defense cuts and social program cuts that are scheduled to take effect the first of the year. i talked to one democratic congressman, a leader last night, i ran into him at an event in suburban washington. he said, don't look for congress to do anything substantiative in that lame duck, however, they might push that deadline back, work out some kind of deal, push it back six months, and get some serious negotiations on what to do about that fiscal cliff, some time in the springtime. >> mike viqueira, thank you. >>> the spin machine is in full effect over those jobs numbers. first, president obama used his weekly address to tout that drop in unemployment numbers to 7.8. >> more americans are entering the workforce, more americans are getting jobs. >> but mitt romney on his weekly podcast this morning argued that it is just more proof that obama's policies had failed. >> we created fewer jobs in september than in august, and fewer jobs in august than in july. and we've lost over 600,000 manufac
chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president ob
seven. taxes, depending on who we're length, their tax policy will affect you for years to come. on thursday, vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan tried to make the case for the respective ticket's tax plans, take a look. >> our entire premise of these tax reform plans is to grow the economy and create jobs. it's plan estimated to create 7 million jobs. now, we think that government taking 28% of a family and business's income is enough. >> okay. those answers weren't exactly full of detail, so let me see if i can help them out. mitt romney would cut all tax rates by 20% and reduce the top tax rate from 35% to 28%. he'd eliminate taxes on capital gains, repeal the alternative minimum tax and estate tax and cut the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. on the other hand president obama would keep tax rates the same for those making less than $250,000. he'd also raise the top two tax brackets to 36% and 39.6% and he has supported the buffet rule. he'd restore the estate tax but lower the corporate tax rate to 28% from 35%. so the choice is yours, undecided voter. b
have a theory that you try and fix things in the economy, get a more efficient tax code, get the deficit down over time. that that will help you. when you give them truth serum, you're talk and you off the record, the disruption might be tough for the first few months. but they would argue that the longer term, since we're on the right track would be worth it. that's not an argument you see in the debates. it's not the way the argument gets framed. but that's the core ideological dispute in the election. >> on the other side that's been surprising is president obama, they don't talk about their big idea on the jobs. they don't talk about the jobs act. they didn't bring it up in the debates. why do you think that is? because that is a big responsive, a big idea on jobs here. >> there's a great new book called the "new new deal" about the stimulus that came out in 2009 and was almost $8 hundred billion saying it was a great success. it did a lot of things to help this recession from being worse. it's something that the president's political advisers, they do the polling. it doe
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